Ruzaos vs Rigwarl

posted on 2006-12-24 08:15:41
You step into the vortex, dragging Ruzaos along with you!
Ruzaos yells 'Help! Rigwarl is abducting me!'
The Dark Rift

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Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
The Guardian of Justice has quite a few wounds.

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Ruzaos walks east.
A special guard walks east.

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Ruzaos walks in.
A special guard walks in.

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Ruzaos walks east.
A special guard walks east.

<941hp 321m 576mv 35111xp inside day no opponent no opponent > The Dark Rift

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scan a
You scan all around.
You scan north.
You scan east.
*** Range 1 (east) ***
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You scan south.
*** Range 1 (south) ***
A giant spider is here, waiting to suck your blood.
A giant spider is here, waiting to suck your blood.
(White Aura) A treant guardian is here, protecting its home.
*** Range 3 (south) ***
A glowering Defiler is here.
*** Range 4 (south) ***
A treant sibling is here.
A treant elder is here, trying to teach you the ways of nature.
*** Range 5 (south) ***
A gnoll is here, roaming the forest.
An ogre stands here waiting to bash your face in.
You scan west.
*** Range 2 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 4 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 6 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
You scan up.
You scan down.
*** Range 2 (down) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 4 (down) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 6 (down) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.

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The Dark Rift

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The Dark Rift

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(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.

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murder ruzaos
Ruzaos yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Rigwarl!'
Your turmoil DISEMBOWELS Ruzaos!
Ruzaos's shield jolts under your turmoil, but holds.
You parry Ruzaos's freezing bite.
You couldn't dodge Ruzaos's freezing bite but he misses by inches.
You parry Ruzaos's freezing bite.
Ruzaos manages to dodge your turmoil with a lot of effort.
Ruzaos has some small wounds and bruises

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Ruzaos has fled!
Ruzaos walks east.
A special guard walks east.

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dual flail
You stop wielding a chaos-bound polearm.
You wield 'Khyer-Dirohm', the Vorpal Sword of Atonement.
'Khyer-Dirohm', the Vorpal Sword of Atonement feels like a part of you!

<941hp 321m 573mv 35111xp inside day no opponent no opponent > You wield 'Chautard-ta', the Flail of Child Beating in your off-hand.
You feel quite confident with 'Chautard-ta', the Flail of Child Beating.

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east
The Dark Rift

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scan a
You scan all around.
You scan north.
*** Range 1 (north) ***
*** Range 2 (north) ***
*** Range 3 (north) ***
*** Range 4 (north) ***
*** Range 5 (north) ***
*** Range 6 (north) ***
You scan east.
*** Range 1 (east) ***
The morkoth is standing here, waiting for someone to KILL!
The morkoth is standing here, waiting for someone to KILL!
Jones 'Cruncher' the ettin is standing here glaring at you.
You scan south.
You scan west.
You scan up.
*** Range 2 (up) ***
*** Range 4 (up) ***
*** Range 6 (up) ***
You scan down.
*** Range 2 (down) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.

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The Dark Rift

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(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.

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Ruzaos walks west.
A special guard walks west.

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murder ruzaos
They aren't here.

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murder ruzaos
The Dark Rift

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scan a
They aren't here.
The dark rift pulses with a vile energy, causing a sharp pain in your chest.
Your pain mauls you.

<920hp 321m 578mv 35111xp inside day no opponent no opponent > You scan all around.
You scan north.
You scan east.
You scan south.
*** Range 1 (south) ***
*** Range 2 (south) ***
*** Range 3 (south) ***
*** Range 4 (south) ***
*** Range 5 (south) ***
*** Range 6 (south) ***
You scan west.
*** Range 1 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 2 (west) ***
*** Range 3 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 4 (west) ***
*** Range 5 (west) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 6 (west) ***
You scan up.
You scan down.

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Ruzaos walks in.
A special guard walks in.

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Ruzaos walks south.
Ruzaos walks in.

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barfol guard
That makes no sense.
Ruzaos walks east.
A special guard walks east.

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murder ruzaos
They aren't here.

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The Dark Rift

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scan a
You scan all around.
You scan north.
You scan east.
*** Range 1 (east) ***
*** Range 2 (east) ***
*** Range 3 (east) ***
*** Range 4 (east) ***
*** Range 5 (east) ***
*** Range 6 (east) ***
You scan south.
*** Range 1 (south) ***
A giant spider is here, waiting to suck your blood.
A giant spider is here, waiting to suck your blood.
(White Aura) A treant guardian is here, protecting its home.
*** Range 3 (south) ***
A glowering Defiler is here.
*** Range 4 (south) ***
A treant sibling is here.
A treant elder is here, trying to teach you the ways of nature.
*** Range 5 (south) ***
A gnoll is here, roaming the forest.
An ogre stands here waiting to bash your face in.
You scan west.
You scan up.
*** Range 1 (up) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 3 (up) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
*** Range 5 (up) ***
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
You scan down.

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The Dark Rift

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(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
Ruzaos walks south.
A special guard walks south.

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murder ruzaos
They aren't here.
Ruzaos walks in.
A special guard walks in.

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murder ruzaos
The Dark Rift

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<920hp 321m 575mv 35111xp inside day no opponent no opponent > They aren't here.

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murder ruzaos
The Dark Rift

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scan a
They aren't here.

<920hp 321m 574mv 35111xp inside day no opponent no opponent > You scan all around.
You scan north.
*** Range 1 (north) ***
*** Range 2 (north) ***
*** Range 3 (north) ***
*** Range 4 (north) ***
*** Range 5 (north) ***
*** Range 6 (north) ***
You scan east.
*** Range 1 (east) ***
The morkoth is standing here, waiting for someone to KILL!
The morkoth is standing here, waiting for someone to KILL!
Jones 'Cruncher' the ettin is standing here glaring at you.
You scan south.
You scan west.
You scan up.
*** Range 1 (up) ***
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
*** Range 2 (up) ***
*** Range 3 (up) ***
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
*** Range 4 (up) ***
*** Range 5 (up) ***
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
*** Range 6 (up) ***
You scan down.
*** Range 1 (down) ***
(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.

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They aren't here.

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The Dark Rift

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(White Aura) Ruzaos is here.
(Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.

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You yell 'Help! Ruzaos tried to kick dirt into my eyes!'
Ruzaos's kicked dirt misses you.
Ruzaos has some small wounds and bruises

<920hp 321m 573mv 35111xp inside day blade defensive > You do the best you can!
Ruzaos has some small wounds and bruises

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Ruzaos's freezing bite misses you.
You notice something new in Ruzaos's technique.
You have become better at dagger!
Ruzaos's freezing bite mauls you.
Ruzaos grips his shield firmly, staving off your beating.
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Ruzaos manages to dodge your beating with a lot of effort.
Your beating decimates Ruzaos!
Ruzaos has some small wounds and bruises

<896hp 321m 573mv 35111xp inside day blade defensive > You hammer Ruzaos's shield repeatedly with your weapons.
Your barrage hits Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage grazes Ruzaos.
Your barrage grazes Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Ruzaos has quite a few wounds.

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You parry Ruzaos's freezing bite.
You couldn't dodge Ruzaos's freezing bite but he misses by inches.
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Ruzaos blocks your attack and attempts to strike at the brief opening.
Ruzaos's riposte wounds you.
Ruzaos has quite a few wounds.

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You strike Ruzaos with your weapon and attempt to hobble him.
Your hobble wounds Ruzaos.
Ruzaos clutches his leg painfully as he begins to hobble.
Ruzaos has quite a few wounds.

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Ruzaos kicks dirt in your eyes!
Ruzaos's kicked dirt scratches you.
You can't see a thing!

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You dodge someone's freezing bite.
Your beating maims someone!

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You awkwardly parry someone's freezing bite with a loud clang.
Your beating MUTILATES someone!

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bod
You slam into someone, knocking him senseless!
Your bodyslam maims someone!

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You rub the dirt out of your eyes.
Ruzaos's shield arm looks better.
Ruzaos's freezing bite maims you!
You parry Ruzaos's freezing bite.
Ruzaos's shield absorbs the impact of your beating easily.
Your beating devastates Ruzaos!
Ruzaos blocks your attack with his shield.
Your beating devastates Ruzaos!
Ruzaos has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

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You dodge Ruzaos's freezing bite.
Ruzaos's freezing bite decimates you!
Your beating devastates Ruzaos!
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Ruzaos has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

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You hammer Ruzaos's shield repeatedly with your weapons.
Your barrage injures Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage hits Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage hits Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage hits Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage grazes Ruzaos.
Ruzaos has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

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Ruzaos stops hobbling around.
You parry Ruzaos's freezing bite.
You manage to dodge Ruzaos's freezing bite with a lot of effort.
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Your beating maims Ruzaos!
Ruzaos looks pretty hurt.

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Ruzaos's kicked dirt misses you.
Ruzaos looks pretty hurt.

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Ruzaos's freezing bite devastates you!
Ruzaos's freezing bite decimates you!
Your beating MUTILATES Ruzaos!
Ruzaos deflects your beating aside in an ungraceful parry.
Ruzaos looks pretty hurt.

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rage
You feel your veins course with power as the madness engulfs you!
The dark rift pulses with a vile energy, causing a sharp pain in your chest.
Your pain injures you.
Ruzaos's pain mauls him.
Ruzaos is in awful condition.

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Ruzaos's freezing bite decimates you!
Your flames injures Ruzaos.
Ruzaos's freezing bite mauls you.
Your flames injures Ruzaos.
Your beating DISEMBOWELS Ruzaos!
Ruzaos dodges your beating.
Your beating DISEMBOWELS Ruzaos!
Ruzaos is incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
Ruzaos is in awful condition.

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Your beating MASSACRES Ruzaos!
Ruzaos is DEAD!!
You snap out of your madness at the death of your opponent.
You hear Ruzaos's death cry.
Armor and entrails decorate the skies as an unfortunate is torn asunder.
A special guard slowly disappears.
  1. retard Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    What about two handed?

    This drops the berserker's damage the most. if he tries to sideswipe that, just dual, barrage, and its gone. go back to two handed right away though, because the overhead will annihilate (its the worst combat skill easily from that sort of strength difference). Sideswipe on the other hand, still sucks balls.

    If he rages then two handed is never inferior so thats nice.
  2. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Come on, don't even fall for this shit.

    This is just typical Kalist shamefully picking the most absurd portion of fight(s) and posting it as Ruzaos vs Rigwarl like this is representative of anything.

    What REALLY happened:
    #1: Ruzaos in decent enough gear gets abducted inside the justice cabal, dies in a somewhat close one.
    #2: After unghost, with just guild issue and an icicle, and under weaken effect from Neejard, Rigwarl invades cabal and abducts again. That is this "fight" posted.
    #3: After unghost, Rigwarl invades and abducts in justice cabal a third time. Guild issue, icicle, timid effigy. Actually did ok. Obviously still died.

    Conclusion = Kalist is a massive fag.
  3. dahlin Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Correct me if this changed, but I thought legions could only abduct contracteds, and dying to Rigwarl is an effective way of losing one's contract.
  4. erlwith Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    It's multi-kills like you describe that makes this game less fun to play. Go kalist for making people want to play WoW!
  5. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    I think that legions can buy their own contracts from Vinnie... And then it's still a Legion declared war.. so yeah.
  6. kalist Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Eh, I never told this guy to make a justice. If you don't want to die to a legion then don't make a Knight or Justice and make sure you buy protection. As for multikill...he was free to quit after each death.

    *This is just typical Kalist shamefully picking the most absurd portion of fight(s)*

    Why don't you post the other fights then?

    *and posting it as Ruzaos vs Rigwarl like this is representative of anything.*

    It shows that Ruzaos died. In fact he died 3 times. This would lead me to conclude that this log is, in fact, entirely representative of our encounters.

    Merry Strythmas and a Dreary Kwanzuk to all!
  7. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    What I originally was thinking was that Neejard was buying contracts back to back to back. Then I see from log no gold to coffer / contract collection message, so I realize Kalist is in fact just that lame.

    As for abduct, I think its this, under cabal tweak in updates thread:

    12/11/06: Abduct is now enabled in enemy cabals. This should help balance out the raid/ensnare combo.

    Kalist: Theres nothing representative about killing someone weakened, in guild issue with one weapon. You made no effort to give any context to the log. The fact that you would single out this log alone instead of the real, fair fight (first one), and without any context, is pretty telling of your character.

    Erlwith, general: Agreed. I am in an enemy cabal and am a good player yet even in this situation I do not see the need for multikilling at all. The enemy cabal just means full loot and sac what you don't need, not multikill. I'm supposed to log out just to avoid otherwise destined unavoidable death (forced to defend cabal, abducted inside with guild issue right after I unghost, stand no chance)? Thats pretty ridiculous, whats the point of even playing the game? Unless its like a thief who just unghosts so he can blackjack me, a berserker who unghosts so he can try to rage revenge kill me while I'm almost dead, a guy who immediately keeps getting your flag (wanted, contract, whatever) back to back to back, or like a guy who just popped in my cabal to try to get his stuff back when I want it, or a guy that just keeps talking unbelievable smack - I'm just not multikilling anybody, I at least have enough class and decency to not do that.

    Not only because its "wrong", i.e. if you think its ok to keep killing guild issue or naked/semi naked people over and over again there is something wrong with your head, but because it shouldn't provide any kind of enjoyment to a player anyway. How is repeatedly killing people who can't do much about it like being bound to defend cabal and he can abduct, good for the game in any way? What, you are just going to kill them over and over and over until they quit out, like that makes it ok? You aren't proving anything except that you are a big gay Steve Urkel holding up a big L to his forehead. This isn't just Kalist, this is to all of you who play the game this way. Shameful.
  8. DeFuego Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Not really anything wrong with anyones head. If you play a Cabal char, you have enemies. You know you will be hunted without mercy, that is the thrill of Cabals. If you want your arse coddled, then Cabal life is not for you. You loose the 'I'm only in guild issue' excuse when you join a cabal.

    Also.. Any chance of seeing these alleged logs of yours? I normally would be the first one to call Kalist trashy, but in this case you are way off and just wrong. He killed you fair and square, three times. If you only wanted to die once, log out or don't play a Cabaled char. Simple as that.

    Point of Post: Cabals are not made just so you have uber powers and no drawbacks. Get used to it. Especially as a Justice.
  9. retard Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Eh ensnare doesn't work when they don't have flag .... eh so abduct shouldn't work when they have no contract ... eh Kalist has the sense to know this, and eh went and did it over and over again anyway. Eh.

  10. davor Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    1. this is logboard, and what Kalist posted was... omfg... a log.
    2. nobody is stopping you from posting your logs.
    3. if you think kalist did something wrong write NOTE TO IMM by all means, with that you will possibly make the game better, but by bitching here you are just feeding the trolls and looking like pansies. choice is yours of course.
  11. rezakhan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Why would a Legion not kill you when you unghost? To be nice and play fair? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain the goal of Legions is to be feared, not to be respected for fair fighting (that was the Warlords). Think of it this way: by unghosting after you are killed, it shows that you do not fear the Legion enough--it's a slap in his face that you would unghost and expect to get away with it.
    Not to mention that what happened is not necessarily 'destined unavoidable death', as you called it. With all the combat styles and skills available now, it is certainly possible for someone with lesser equipment to beat someone who is well equipped. While Kalist repeatedly barraged and hobbled you, you sat there and spammed dirt--why not switch combat styles, try a new skill? If you can't compete with the top players unless you have an uber-pimped set, then you shouldn't be in a cabal--you should play a character who is able to run away until you get the eq you need.
  12. dahlin Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    I'd just like to point out that almost-naked-warrior vs. utterly-decked-kalist-fire-zerker is, well, impossible. Look at the damage Ruzaos was doing with a damn vuln weapon. But yeah, if you knew you were gonna die, quit the fuck out. You ate your death, don't have to do it again and again.
  13. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    DeFuego: A *just unghosted upon previously killed by the same guy* and guild issue and icicle vs. best suit in game is a 'fair and square' fight? Lay off the crack.

    Davor: I am not whining about broken game rules. Thats the problem - I'm sure this is all fine by game rules. Yet what you can get away with doing is not always the right thing to do. For yourself if you have any class and care about not being trash, for others if you want to see people stick around, and for the health of the game for a number of reasons.

    Rezakhan: 'A slap in the face that you would unghost and expect to get away wth it'? Lol? Did you just fucking say that? To the second part, guild issue and icicle is not lesser equipment, its near no equipment. The best I could have done is bought an effigy to have two styles to use which I did the third time and did marginally ok. But no, its not possible to win that one even if you get in every style skill at every perfect time and block all his.
  14. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Dahlin: I shouldn't have to quit out. I'm the victim in the situation, hes the trashy dickwad. It should be on him to stop being the dickwad. Even if you don't agree with that, I'm sure having everyone quit out is not the answer to problems that imms or anyone who cares about the game is looking for.
  15. retard Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Its definitely trashy to keep killing someone like that. But its a pk mud and that's what happens if there's a way to. Like if there was a way to just assassinate someone over and over easily. Obviously someone would do it. Its ez PK.

    The problem is when someone get hold of an easy-to-use strategy that's too uber to actually lose with. Because sooner or later there will be someone even more merciless doing it. Like this whisk off with cherry picked abducts / no-contract thing. Can you imagine Louis with that? He'd milk that for all its worth and expect everyone to think he's a god for raping everyone as much as he could before the Imms found out. For sure. Seems to me like Kalist gets quit on because he only plays 20 mins and released his frustration on someone here.

    LOL you can't have abduct like that.
  16. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    I think shotokan is just bitter he can't beat someone.

    Quote: "But no, its not possible to win that one even if you get in every style skill at every perfect time and block all his."

    Wouldn't that have won you the battle already? Contradictory.


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    Cabal Guild Issue is actually pretty good. You can easily get 20/30 with a little time spent picking out the better eq and substituting the lousier ones with normal eq. (dark oak, red dragon, etc). In fact guild issue is NOT NO equipment, if it was then what's the point of having it in the first place.

    Furthermore, I don't think it's right for someone to expect to be in full battle operationability in guild issue, that's not an excuse for not re-equipping properly, which guild issue is supposed to aid in.

    Besides, what's the point of killing someone a few times besides telling him to scram and hide (or quit) if you don't want to keep dying. Obviously getting eq off you as a reason is not applicable here.


    And just a lil thought, abduct shouldn't work on uncontracted anywhere unless ensnared. While invading, you could effectively beat a confine if you abduct someone and escape the rift. Utter cheese. This "security" check shouldn't be tough to implement.
  17. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Clifton here - this thread won't be locked, so keep feeding the flames, lets see how big it gets.

    That said, shotokan, you're a pussy. It's level 50 evil chaotic that you're calling trashy. You're a retard. Why do you think people make evils? To join heralds, hold hands, and fap? No, people make gay half-elf paladin Knight Guardians for shit like that. If you don't want to die, be like Dahlin and don't play your justice. Otherwise, shut up and eat it. If you think Kalist's log isn't representative, by all means post your own shit. There's an autologger script for Zmud. Furthermore, guild issue equipment is managable. Yamal in guild issue vs Rigwarl pimped, I got him to about 70%. Anyway, he has huge vulns, not his fault you choose to sit in gimp combat style instead of exploiting him.

    Retard, people don't attack justice in town. It's like a coterie with uber powers. I like the forced deathmatch.
  18. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    lolololol.. I didn't complain about the first fight at all, which I lost. No bitterness about that at all.

    And no, with guild issue and successfully getting off all barrages, sideswipes, and overheads possible with an icicle and a cheap effigy, while at the same time not being hobbled or combat styled yourself, you are still not going beat a maximum pimped out fire bers that abducts you. The only way I could see this possibly happening is if the berserker raged early with 1h+shield or dual, so that you could spam effigy overheads and enjoy rake effects for the entire fight.

    As for your little time spent switching out to reequip, thats the point, there is no time. Its unghost, get like an icicle at best, effigy if you can afford it, and hes already invading again. If you actually had enough time to get like red dragon plus a couple dex items to balance it, and acceptable weapons [weapons are probably most important actually] then it would be more understandable if he invaded again. Is waiting half an hour really so unbearable before killing someone again? Seriously. You don't have to let someone get all pimped out themselves, but I mean damn, I'd like to think people would be better than just easy pk'ing others right after an unghost.
  19. dahlin Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Shotokan, you don't have to run to the cabal the second he invades. You're allowed to take time to prepare. So if he abducts and kills you once, feel free to stock up on black tear, whatever rings you prefer, blood candle, whatnot and etc. Even if he's invading and item capturing this whole time. It's perfectly fine if you just died to the guy and actually attack him once you're done re-equipping. This is all supposed to be within reason, of course, so don't go rare hunting.
  20. jeoparty Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    This is a fucking log board fags.
  21. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    You probably don't want to listen to Dahlin. He doesn't play. And anyway, if you spend time re-equipping, you'll just get annoyed again. Get eq, full loot -> sac.
  22. dahlin Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Hey, he complained he can't do shit to rigwarl in guild issue, just letting him know he doesn't have to fight it that way.
  23. balaks Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Tis the season to be jolly fa la la la fap la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaa
  24. hrash ahahaha -
    This is what I hear...

    shotokan - Whine whine I'm a bitch whine whine I suck whine whine whine whine whine.

    If you're in a cabal, expect to get an ass raping. If you're not in a cabal, expect to get an ass raping. It's a pk mud for crying out loud. Shit, if I was the character and I got killed 3 times in a row, I would gather my possy and beat that faggot down. Oh wait, I can handle my own, so no, I wouldn't do that.

    No offense Kalist.
  25. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Ass raping = Get killed. Once. Or again if at least a little time is given to get marginal equipment.

    Get your possy, yeah I bet thats what most of you ooc fags would do.

    There is no handle your own here. You either quit - whos the pussy now? -, you quick defend in crap and die, you get your faggy ooc friends to help out, or you go dahlin route and don't defend while you take your time getting what you need to fight again, another semi pussy route because you are ignoring an invader for a long time.

    You aren't winning in guild issue against best suit in game so again, shut the fuck up. Stop defending multikill and just man up and admit you guys like being trashy and in return accept trashyness. Or don't accept it and either quit out, don't defend, or get your ooc possy - the real bitch moves.
  26. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Hey whiner.. pretty sure, there is no multikill at 50 for evil chaotic Legion forsaken. There was a helpfile some time ago where it said that they earned the right.

    PvP is fun, PvM isn't. You PvM so you can kill.
  27. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Flame on. I'd like to make a few corrections..

    ass raping = multi kill pwnage bitch.

    ooc fags = not everyone can be one. takes a certain high degree of sucking to get a fap group together

    dahlin != the world.

    Lynelle put up great fights in guild issue.

    Rigwarl doesn't have the best suit anymore. Anyway, Titanium Tenor probably only gives like 25 - 30 damroll. It got demolished by Zarat in a double KO.

    There's no need for any reason at all for an EVIL to PK mercilessly at 50. Get your shit together we aren't preaching Christianity or Buddhism here, on the contrary PKing IS ENCOURAGED.

    At 50 nothing is trashy. You earn the right to PK people 8 ranks under, if you're a human warrior/mage. For example, you don't call a human shaman pking your wimpy elf paladin trashy.

    Lastly, nobody cares. (unless it's Davairus)
  28. hrash Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Ass raping = Multikilling. You get ass raped once, you don't go back.

    Considering I don't play AR and haven't touched it in a few years, I don't belong to an ooc fag group. I do, however, remember beating on Kalist, Resatimm, Ramod, and a whole assorted of guys. And seriously, Burzuk would NOT implement these changes if he thought that EQ is the greatest determining factor. In fact, if you look at all the changes with the variety of tactics, he probably took into consideration the vast difference of equipment and thought of different strategies.

    Not to mention the VAST VAST VAST array of equipment that can be created/gambled now. You're in guild equipment? Big fucking whoop. Go gather some gold and gamble shit.

    Once again:

    Shotokan - whine whine whine whine I can't do jack shit cuz I suck whine whine whine whine I'm sterile whine whine whine whine
  29. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "Rigwarl doesn't have the best suit anymore. Anyway, Titanium Tenor probably only gives like 25 - 30 damroll. It got demolished by Zarat in a double KO."

    Zarat wasn't in guild issue with an icicle after just dying, was he? If you want to compare Zarat fight, then compare it to my first fight, which was close enough, and which I wasn't whining about at all. By then I was wondering why Rigwarl didn't invade sooner so I had something to do. Side note Zarat gets to wear (and double grip) frostbrand sword, and ice staff, but that doesn't really matter as I'm not complaining about things like that.


    "PKing IS ENCOURAGED."

    Theres a difference between PK and immediate multikills. I encourage PK. I do not encourage trash.


    "At 50 nothing is trashy"

    Oh, its still trashy. Its just legal.


    "You get ass raped once, you don't go back."

    So you quit out, or don't defend. And you guys have the nerve to act like I'm the pussy here?


    "Big fucking whoop. Go gather some gold and gamble shit."

    This is basically your only out then. Spend at least 100k to get a few pieces and some kind of weapon to have somewhat of a chance, per fight. Sometimes you can't even get two good pieces for 100k. Anyways, its still not very sustainable and you will have to put in mad hours to get the bankroll to keep doing that.
  30. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Nigger, I just wouldn't die.
  31. kalist Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Wow I leave town for a few days and this flaming turned into a bonfire.

    First, I want to make sure you are aware of the distinction between CHARACTER and PLAYER.

    As a PLAYER, I'm Kalist. Hi.

    As a CHARACTER, I'm Rigwarl. Evil Chaotic Legion Forsaken. He is mean. He has anger issues. I don't know if you have noticed, but Rigwarl has declared a WAR on Thera. You just so happen to be on the wrong team. He is strict to his underlings (punishes them brutally for any fault and reprimands them even if they only talk out of turn), and merciless to his enemies.

    Let me explain something to you. Rigwarl had SEVERAL legitimate reasons for multikilling you. Since you are blinded by the smoke of your flames, let me point them out for you.

    1. You are in an enemy cabal - trying to stop Rigwarl from conquering Thera. Enemy cabal = die.

    2. Each time you die, you SPEND GOLD on guild issue (5k), weapons (35k - depending on which effigy you buy), and potions (likely 10k for 3-4 defenders). Killing you repeatedly is a good way to get you to WASTE your GOLD. In the world of Thera, money is power.

    3. He doesn't like you. He remembers fighting you and Zeahne and still has a bitter taste in his mouth (eventhough I may have been the one to initiate the fight - I can't remember). Believe it or not, Rigwarl DOES hold grudges - oh nos!

    4. Killing you repeatedly is a tactic designed to destroy your morale and cause you to quit opposing Legion's domination of Thera. If you don't play your justice or delete it because it constantly gets raped, then Legion is one step closer to world domination.


    There are a few insights into the mind of a firegiant. Next time before you start flaming, please think about WHO you are flaming (character or player) and don't forget to consider the CHARACTER'S possible motives for wanting to splatter you on the wall.
  32. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Zarat did the hard work for you - dying just to remove the Titanium Tenor set. What did you do? Right now Rigwarl doesn't have 46/91 hit/dam. He used to have it when I fought him myself on my own warrior. All these damage look so tiny compared to what they were back then - MANGLES through sanc.

    On a sidenote Zarat chose to be a neutrel H-E warrior and he forgoed a ton of other equipment that he could have gotten if he were to be Evil. What you're whining about not having frostbrand or ice staff just cus you went evil? Ridiculous.

    About gambling, It has been proven a few times that you can get a -1hit/4dam or equivalent armor in the first try. 15k-25k gold spent. I myself have struck jackpot in various occassions - Winter gambling trips, Underworld gambling trips and such. Just because you've never gotten a lucky break doesn't mean it never happens.

    Getting killed by Rigwarl is nothing. Try getting killed by the Shaman/Necro duo, multiple times. We don't see anyone whining about that do we? Because apparently you haven't eaten those slaughters.
  33. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "As a PLAYER, I'm Kalist. Hi.
    As a CHARACTER, I'm Rigwarl. Evil"

    Immediate multikilling isn't an issue of good vs evil. Some evils do, some don't. Some goods do, some don't. Its purely a matter of how lame a player is. The player, not the character.


    "1. You are in an enemy cabal - trying to stop Rigwarl from conquering Thera. Enemy cabal = die."

    Die yes, immediate multikill no. Die, then maybe even die like 20 minutes later? Sure. Right away? Gay pride parade.


    "2. Each time you die, you SPEND GOLD."

    If you wait like a day people will have spent the same, if not even far more on gambles, weapons. If you are multi-invading do you think I am going to spend 200k perfecting my gear or the 6k on the guild issue with such mega high risk? Duh. If you really want to drain them, wait until they've actually bought some shit, which shouldn't even take time. Draining bank gold from capturing item would also be good, but then, despite your 'war to wipe out justices and all opposing forces from thera' I think its safe to say you nor anyone else is going to man up to the extreme and do that - lollerskates.


    "He remembers fighting you and Zeahne and still has a bitter taste in his mouth. Rigwarl DOES hold grudges - oh nos!"

    We've never fought or said words before this trash fest, nor was I around during Zeahne. Still though, why we would fight is not in question, it makes perfect sense grudge or not. Just not the fucking immediate multikills. Retards please study that last sentence because you keep thinking I am whining about fighting Rigwarl or something and just don't get it.


    "If you don't play your justice or delete it because it constantly gets raped, then Legion is one step closer to world domination."

    Horseshit. If I was scared I would have quit out when you logged in in the first place like half of the people flaming me would have done. You don't dominate by killing gimps - guild issue, one weapon. You dominate by taking people as they come - or getting them like in the first fight - and running through them. You don't have to let them get pimped out when it happens, but flat out you instill no fear by killing freshly unghosted guild issuers. Thats not domination at all. Thats just a show of trash, which if anything has a reverse affect on fear, respect, etc.




    "All these damage look so tiny compared to what they were back then - MANGLES through sanc. On a sidenote Zarat chose to be a neutrel H-E warrior and he forgoed a ton of other equipment that he could have gotten if he were to be Evil. What you're whining about not having frostbrand or ice staff just cus you went evil? Ridiculous. Getting killed by Rigwarl is nothing."

    When did I ever whine about fighting or dying to Rigwarl normally? Stay out of the thread and shut the fuck up if you can't be bothered to actually read what people are saying without your blinders on. I'm only talking about immediate multikills here.


    "Try getting killed by the Shaman/Necro duo, multiple times. We don't see anyone whining about that do we? Because apparently you haven't eaten those slaughters."

    I'll be happy to whine if they kill me (this portion I don't care about), I unghost, and they immediately come back and invade and do it again. Rigwarl, Shaman/Necro, it doesn't matter. Its fucking trashy. Period.
  34. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    You suck, shut up. You fucking whiner. Make a herald. God damnit. People explain shit to you and you in your self righteous justification keep on talking. This is why threads get locked, so you don't keep sounding like an idiot. You are a retard. He is a player. He is 50 evil legion forsaken. He can multikill you to fucking oblivion is he goddamn well feels like if. It is up to you to stop that shit. I don't care how you want to rationalize it, it's your fault. Your fault, okay? Not his. He could multikill you all day long and it'd be alright. Hell, it would be fan-fucking-tastic roleplay. Do you know what roleplay is? The other half of the mud. The first half is pk. You don't deserve shit. You don't deserve to be let off the hook. You died, it's not his fault you died again. It's yours. Because you didn't do a damn thing about it. So stop whining, so stop bitching, so stop calling Kalist trashy simply because you are a whiny bitch who can't take dying. If you don't like it, quit. If you don't want to quit, die. You could try asking him nicely to not kill you IC, but that's still IC, not this ooc bullshit calling him a piece of trash. He's level 50 evil forsaken legion. What's he going to do, help you re-equip? You're a fucking dumbshit, perhaps you'd like to shut the hell up.
  35. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Ahah flame on sucker. You started the profanities and I'm joining in this flamefest.

    Sho meh the cock wrote: "Horseshit. + a wall of worthless shit."

    So what can you do fucksta? You stick around and show your worthless arsehead to the Forsaken of Legion, who obviously just killed you before to show you how much you were worthed. He ain't gonna go around saying "Oh get equipped and come fuck me up the ass."

    Domination? It's either you cower and hide, or you get eliminated. That's the world. Reality is harsh, get off your fucking throne and shit in the toilets for once.

    He did what everyone remotely -EVIL- would have, and just killed your whiney again. That goes for Knights - repent or get purged (DIE in other words, again and again).

    You got slaughtered by Rigwarl, NORMALLY. Anyone who is equipped with a full set of guild issue, don't have a reason to whine about not dying normally. In fact, anyone who unghosts and has a set of eq is liable for another round of PK, no excuse given.

    You equipped yourself, which meant you are getting fucking ready to fucking kill Rigwarl again, but that's only in your wildest dreams bitch. Wake the fuck up asshat - In reality you got fucked up the ass with a Rigwarl-Rake with your fagass name carved on every single one of those 12 god cursed spikes atop that rake. Rigwarl isn't going to let anyone get ready to hunt him, much less a trash talking, pasty face warrior. He HUNTS the people. It's kill or get killed, simple enough, birdbrain?
  36. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    More like I explain shit to you but your blinders are so locked on you don't want to fess up to liking a game of trash wars.

    Yeah he can immediate multikull all he wants, it was never in dispute that that wasn't legal, dunsky. However that doesn't make it right, for the 53rd time.

    Yeah, its my fault that I get immediate multikulled. lololololol. Lol... Because I didn't do anything about it. Lolollllllooolol.

    Lol..

    Wow.

    Its either quit out - both a pussy move and not good for the game with the low playerbase already, don't defend and gear up - another pussy move, or drop at least 100k to compete - ok once or twice but unsustainable.

    Thats basically it. My fault? LOL.

    Roleplay = We fight. Someone dies.
    Trash = We fight. Someone dies. The winner immediately invades, abducts, and kills two more times against guild issue. Thats not fucking roleplay.

    What is he going to do? Wait 25 freaking minutes before invading again. How about that? Oh, but that would take away your easy kills so it wouldn't work for you would it?

    You guys are so stuck in your trash modes that you act like I'm attacking AR itself, thats how apparently infested the game is with your crap. Just because you are used to something doesn't make it right. I had to walk 10 miles in the snow just to get multikilled 10 times so you should stfu, is not an argument.

    The reality is AR is a good game, just filled with too many losers with trashy agendas. Getting rid of trashy too-soon multikilling doesn't take away from PK or roleplay AT ALL. It just makes the game better.
  37. retard Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Rigwarl went and declared the Legion cabal at war with the Justice cabal. And that means exterminate Justices. Repeatedly if they go let them.

    Like I said, the problem here is that cake abduct-with-no-contract strategy. You don't join Justice because you enjoy not raiding other cabals. You join because you want the safety trade-off.

    Clifton, you can STFU. Nobody who makes a Justice, certainly not me, would stick around and take that bug up the ass, for the sacrifices we (Justice) have to make for our bit of power. That is not something you cmay say "nooo thats good shit, we should keep it!" ...instead, its saying, "hey, Retard, don't make a Justice again, because you can't raid cabals, and have to put up with that retarded abduct crap". You wouldn't want to put up with it. Neither does anyone else. KTHX.

    marsd, you're just singapore rentboy who posts big and says little.
  38. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Retard - We weren't the one who put in "abduct in cabal against uncontracted". We wonder who did?

    Ensnare in cabal? Ensnare works anywhere. Why didn't the Imms just make ensnare NOT WORK in cabals instead of conjuring up that cheese tactic. Using cheese to fuck cheese isn't going to help anything much.
  39. balaks Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Reading this thread makes my head hurt.
  40. trance_m Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Are you a shotokan or a shotokan't?

    Being multikilled sucks, so does being gangbanged. Multikilling and gangbanging others is fun. Circle jerk of AR, everyone ought to get a chance to participate in it. Maybe you'll do it to Rigwarl, maybe someone else.

    If you want to talk about playerbase, consider this entire log. The amount of nancy-pants schoolgirl whining here is ridiculous. This log speaks to what type of players we have here at AR and is more damaging than anything else.

    AR is a CHALLENGING game, and a fun one. If you're not having fun, then stop playing or take a break. If you get your ass whooped at a game like Street Fighter, what do you do? If you have self esteem issues, maybe you'll tell the other guy to fuck off. After you do that, you decide to either put down the controller or to keep playing because it's a chance to get better at a game you enjoy.

    In other words:

    Man up and take it like anyone with two testicles should. Swallow your own pride and then decide what you, as the character or the player, are going to do.
  41. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "Multikilling others is fun".

    Spoken like the true nancy-pants schoolgirl, who can't get much done any other way. And stop bringing up gangbanging or human shamans or whatever, none of that has anything to do with immediate multikill.


    "If you get your ass whooped at a game like Street Fighter, what do you do?"

    Aside from some character balance issues here and there, Street Fighter is always an equal footing game. The more skilled person almost always wins. However, when the match is over, the winner doesn't get to mind control the loser into putting more coins into the machine, taping over 2 of his buttons and messing up his joystick a bit, and proceding to beat him again, and do that all over another time. Thats immediate multikilling. The equivalent of real Street Fighter would be like two guys just fighting at the arena to stun all the time. One guy might lose and get pissed, but each next time hes always at equal footing. He isn't forced into anything with a cabal defend if he hasn't quit out, he isn't abducted, and he doesn't have reduced life bar / equipment / whatever.


    "Man up and take it like anyone with two testicles should. Swallow your own pride and then decide what you are going to do."

    We've already gone over the options 54 times. They all involve being a pussy, or spending half your savings per fight. Remember, just because you had to walk 10 miles in the snow to get multikilled 20 times before doesn't mean shit. Time to be objective.
  42. Nakachi Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "i hear their menstrual cycle attacts bears"

    go use your tampon and wipe your vagina off shotokan..

    these replies are longer than the log lol
  43. trance_m Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "Spoken like the true nancy-pants schoolgirl"

    You're still pissed, so I'm going to forgive your insinuation that I go to school.

    "And stop bringing up gangbanging or human shamans or whatever"

    I'll stop bringing up the way the game works, which you'll have to deal with at some point, if you stop whining about "WHAT SHOULD I DO!!!11! BE A PUSSY AND QUIT, OR BE A DUMBASS AND DIE REPEATEDLY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!!11" - seriously, give it a break.

    "The more skilled person almost always wins."

    Just as it was in this case, too. If you hadn't lost initially, or had been more adept at re-equiping and knowing how and when to fight, this wouldn't be an issue.

    "However, when the match is over, the winner doesn't get to mind control the loser into putting more coins into the machine, taping over 2 of his buttons and messing up his joystick a bit, and proceding to beat him again, and do that all over another time."

    No, it's more like Ken beat Ryu and Ryu got pissed and then played worse because of it. You got beat, fair and square. You Were equiped the next two fights. Complain however much you want, until you're blue in the face for all I care - Guild issue is conceivably *enough*, it was implemented to work that way. Perhaps not enough vs. Rigwarl, but it is in a typical scenario.

    "We've already gone over the options 54 times."

    No, we've all told you the one option you've never responded to. Just stop. We all know you're pissed, there's no amount of complaining at this point to change anyone's mind NOR change the game mechanics and reality of the way the game works.

    Like I said before, it IS a fun game, and if it's not fun - take a break. When I was a Knight, the same shit happened to me every time I logged in for a few weeks. I deleted a beloved character out of frustration and disappointment from the lack of enjoyment. I took a break, chilled out, and am having fun again.
  44. marsd Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Somehow sho meh t3h cawk, you remind me very vividly of seryie. If anyone ever remembered him, he whined about multikills too. And A LOT of whining.

    And the hours you play is similar to Seryie, he'd pull 20 hours a day for a month, then delete cus he got "trash" pk'd. Hence comes to the conclusion of - the more you play, the more vulnerable to frustration you are. ^_^
  45. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    OmG!!11!1!1!!shiftone

    Th15 Thr34d iz l33t! U R T3h Pwnz0rz. I
  46. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "The more skilled person almost always wins. Just as it was in this case, too. If you hadn't lost initially, or had been more adept at re-equiping and knowing how and when to fight, this wouldn't be an issue."

    Dying initially means you suffer that death and its penalties like loss of equipment, con, etc. Dying initially does not me mean die three times. When people fight, its not to see who gets to kill the other person 3 times. Though that is kind of moot for most anyway, given they get to run or whatever and won't be abducted at will. And knowing how and when to fight, what does that even mean? After the first death you are getting invaded on again. Thats the when. You are obligated to defend cabal, part one of the how. You get abducted inside, part two of the how. You are in guild issue with one weapon, or you spent a ton of money to have a chance, thats part 3 of the how. 1 + 2 + 3 = trash.


    "No, it's more like Ken beat Ryu and Ryu got pissed and then played worse because of it."

    No. Ken beats Ryu, casts a temporary curse on him so he can't do fireballs, puts a brace on his leg so he can't hurricane kick, and locks him in a cage for the fight so neither can escape until its over.


    "Guild issue is conceivably *enough*, it was implemented to work that way. Perhaps not enough vs. Rigwarl, but it is in a typical scenario."

    In the specific case of Rigwarl, weapons will be a little bit more important than armor. One icicle = terrible. One good effigy, a punch in the box or something, or rod of mind spectres, or just like at least two of those magic, or better if they hit ice or mental, should do. But thats money again. Maybe you could get away with like a dream catcher, icicle, and effigy, but not really. And the dream catcher will take extra pussy don't defend time to get as well.


    "No, we've all told you the one option you've never responded to. Just stop."

    Stop playing? Stop whining? The first is obviously bad. The second is wrong because I am simply outing trash. No trash, no whine. However, it seems most of you embrace the trash so airing it out does nothing to you because you love it. But if you want to be trash and go up against trash, sad though it may be, at least admit it and be real about it, thats all.


    "When I was a Knight, the same shit happened to me every time I logged in for a few weeks."

    Translation: I walked 10 miles in the snow just to get multikilled 20 times.


    "I deleted a beloved character out of frustration and disappointment from the lack of enjoyment."

    Thats exactly the problem, and what we can reduce if we take out the trash. Not the PK, just the additional instant multikills - the trash.


    "I took a break, chilled out, and am having fun again."

    Hope you don't get trash immediate abduct in your cabal multikilled so you get frustrated and delete again. But hey, it seems like you'd rather delete and take a break rather than just speak out against one of the problems in the first place.
  47. kalist Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    "One good effigy, a punch in the box or something, or rod of mind spectres, or just like at least two of those magic, or better if they hit ice or mental, should do. But thats money again."

    Then why didn't you spend the gold to get good weapons? Is hoarding gold more important than living, or are you just poor?
  48. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    As I've already said, thats only viable a couple times. You can't sustain that unless you put massive hours in doing nothing but farming gold on your offtime.
  49. Retard Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Effigies arent that expensive, after you master haggle it averages down to as low as 25k, then sell the shop some red dragon, and its half price at least. 50k just looks a lot but its whittled down pretty quickly. You can in theory buy the best effigy for as little as 15k. In practice its probably averaging 25-30k.

    I don't see what's so hard about spending a few hours in solace. I'm sure I was collecting 200k a surge at least in those inns. That's 9-10 effigies if you've bought them shrewdly. And I'd have no problem with dipping the bank for my own benefit if I made a Justice.
  50. nakachi Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    lets just get rid of the post to make room for the flames
  51. Clifton Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    You see kids, this is why threads get locked. Does anyone want to continue to have a problem with threads getting locked?
  52. jonus Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    Holy crap, I have been gone for 2 weeks and come back to this! Kalist is playing out exactly the way I would expect an evil chaotic (esp the leader of legion) to play. In fact I can remember ganging up on Kalist several times and beating his ass to the ground. Kalist did take his licks and didn't complain about it. Hell he even came after me with several others. So if anything I would even expect him to do the same thing and even more. The point is it happens and you have to learn not get so upset. Did you get so upset when you were ganged Kalist?
  53. shotokan Ruzaos vs Rigwarl -
    No one said anything about gangbanging dumbass.